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  Re: IRTC Stills Surrealism results  
From: Gilles Tran
Date: 26 Sep 2003 14:25:20
Message: <3f748490$1@news.povray.org>

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> If I enter my image and get a 35th position and
> someone sends one image with ladybugs and
> stairs and get the 16th position, my conclusion
> is that something is going wrong for me.

Well, one third of the votes is between 10 and 12... and this includes your
image and the ladybugs one. It's a very narrow range after all. I'd say that
the voters just expressed the feeling that all these images were not very
distinguishable from a quality point of view.

> IMHO the winner image has nothing to do with
> the topic (and I don't want to talk about the link given by
> Gonzo in a previous post in this thread, it talks by itself).

Actually there was never any doubt for me that the winning image was the
best one. It's a great image, possibly one of the best I've seen on the
IRTC, and well above the competition. And yes, it's completely off-topic and
(possibly) done last year so that's 2 violations and on these grounds alone
it shouldn't have been allowed to run. Still, if I had voted in this round,
I probably would have voted it best picture since there's no "on-topicness"
note (the concept for this image is very good too so there's no reason to
vote it down there).

The IRTC is an open competition. This is what makes it interesting: not only
anyone can run but the voting is quite fair IMHO (little bias, little fraud,
voters are by people who care). It's simpler to administrate too, I guess.
But of course, this also allows situations like this one (off-topic image
winning) or even a situation like the Architecture round, where the winner
image was a highly professional-looking image, but also off-topic due to its
lack of content. This also leads to an awful lot of bad entries, which not
only makes viewing and voting somehow tedious but also makes the IRTC a hard
to take seriously as far as 3D competition go (hence no sponsors, for
instance).

The alternative I can see is to have a prior selection of the entries, with
a panel entitled to accept and reject images on the ground of content. This
would certainly lead to better, always on-topic images and more
consideration outside the IRTC community. But it would add a lot of overhead
on the admins (maintaining the panel, writing rejection emails...). There
would be some some bitching from the authors of rejected pictures,
accusations of partiality etc. And, of course, it would be less friendly in
general.

G.


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